Anders Breivik’s horrendous assault is surely familiar to you, and it’s certainly nothing to joke about. His acts of violence that ended the lives of dozens of people last year still trend somberly in the news, and will not be forgotten soon.
The trial in which the court spent countless hours and resources on trying to determine if video games were the source of his psychotic behavior, though? Definitely something that needs to be weighed in on. Specifically? The so-called psychologist involved in the case who claimed that, if you’re over the age of twenty and playing video games, you’re an introverted sociopath. Seriously.
The doctor in question is Synne Sørheim, a name that will ring true to future psychologists with alliteration and ignorance. I’m not going to pretend that I’m smarter or more qualified than the woman, nor that she’s a charlatin; I will say, however, that she’s full of it.
First, before scrutinizing this egregious remark, I’d like you to read something that Sørheim blatantly admitted in court: “We have no form of expertise when it comes to computer games.” That means that the goddamned expert called to testify readily admitted she had no fucking idea what she was talking about. I might as well tell you that leaving pop tarts in the toaster too long will make you retarded, or that wearing white after labor day will give you cancer.
Now, here’s the main quote:
“We feel that playing a lot of computer games gives the impression of a working cognitive function. It is however, something completely different to relate to something in real life, have committed relationships to other people, arrange meetings, go to work in the morning, have a healthy relationship with a girlfriend, or having common social skills.
I would still like to point out that sitting alone in your room and playing games, no matter what the scope of the matter, call it addiction or whatnot, is not normal for a man in his 20′s.”
I really don’t disagree about the first part of this quote, nor do I care. The last, emphasized part, though? After undeniably letting us know she was pulling things out of her ass, she said that she’d like us to know in her expert opinion that no matter what your situation is, even if you’re not a mass murderer terrorist jackass, no matter if it’s for 10 minutes a day or ten hours, sitting alone and playing games is not normal if you’re older than 20.
What the fuck is going on here? How is subjective bullshit like this still allowed in our world today? Video games are still a “new medium,” by most definitions, but this kind of rampant speculation should have ended a few console generations ago.
Instead of simply prosecuting him and saying that he went ape-shit and murdered over 70 people, which, by the way, is called being a psychopath, there had to be some form of blame to be passed. And, like it so often happens, it just had to be attributed to video games. After all, Breivik admitted to “using CoD” to train himself for murder sprees. I guess Sørheim must have thought, “why not take it further and call almost every gamer in the world an introvert for playing games in their spare time?”
She must not realize that the largest age demographic for video games is the exact age range she’s criticizing. Oh, yeah, or that it’s among the largest entertainment mediums in the world, if it isn’t the largest. I guess when you hit a certain age, you’re allowed to be delightfully cretinous and urinate puerile drivel out of your withering anus without worrying about sounding like a fool, even if you’re a respected psychologist testifying at one of the biggest criminal cases in the history of your country.
Every person who holes themselves up for hours on end playing World of Warcraft, Call of Duty, or whatever their game of choice might be is not a crazy person, Sørheim. That’s like inferring that everyone who eats grease is going to get diarrhea or that every person who enjoys chess is a genius. Sure, both of those are true for some varying percentage of their respective demographic, but it’s true for everything– there’s absolutely no relevant correlation.
Maybe this will help clarify the issue. If I were to say all psychologists were full of shit, would I be right? Well, judging off of one disgusting, circumstantially unqualified imbecile that happened to testify in this case, using the exact same logic she did, I sure would be.
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Agreed Adam bro.
Any person claiming that it is "not normal for anyone to being playing computer games by themselves over the age of 20," is clearly unqualified to be even allowed to speculate on the matter. If their lives are so fucking good that they can get away with it, then good on them. But, it doesn't make it "not normal," to be playing after 20, does'nt it?
And back me up here, but WHY THE FUCK, would you ask a woman's opinion (regardeless of qualification,) on any form of video games anyhow?
Being rude is a part of my natural godly life, so I refuse to apoligize for any offences.
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LikeGood to know. I'll be able to game when I'm 21. -is female-.
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LikeThis story is bull, a case of poor translation. This is the offending quote: "Jeg vil likevel understreke, å sitte alene på eget rom og spille dataspill er ikke det samme som er en vanlig funksjon for en mann i midten av tyveårene". The translation should be: "I would still like to stress, however, that sitting alone in your own room playing video games is not the same as normal function for a man in his mid-twenties."
Further context makes it very obvious that the gaming in and of itself is not the problem, but rather that their understanding of matters was that this was ALL he did, which I would agree is less than completely healthy.
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LikeThat's horrific! How am I supposed to wake up one day and go 'Well, I'm past 20 now, I guess I should give up my passion!' Plus, I like how she specifies MEN in their twenties... >:|
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LikeBy her logic, sitting in a room alone and doing ANYTHING is apparently a sign of abnormal behavior. That means no crossword puzzles, no Suduku, and, absolutely positively no READING IN A ROOM BY YOURSELF!
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Likewomen shouldn't be able to speak about video games in else she played it long enough, second i have a life outside of video game i choice to play as it was part of my childhood growing up my dad still plays my brother still plays and my sister well under the age of 20 still plays not as much though.
she has no clue what she speaks off so it really does not matter when she admits she has no clue what she speaks off. that like saying you lazy mother for staying home and watching kids. than working and watching your own kids when you get home.
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Likethe one in the middle is the ugliest.
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LikeOk im a 28 year old gamer from norway, i followed the hearing, an i guarantee you all this article is BS. Taken out of context and lost in transelation. She did an excelent job. If this article was true i would have been pissed too, but its not. A good example that you shouldnt believe everything you read.
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LikeVideo Killed the Radio Star....
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LikeShe is a fugly who thinks her words are important
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LikeThats a terrible way of thinking.
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LikeAnything to get us washing the pots. Fkin Women.
I am 39, I have only just started my high tech website and now I have to sell all my consoles switch my Galaxy S3 for 2 Yoghurt pots and switch my PC for some lined paper.
OR here's an idea, fuck off you stupid slag.
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Likeneildee250 What's your website?
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LikeGamePlox GaminGuys.com, it has adobe for Multi-video chat, Auctions, news the lot. Let me know what you think ;)
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Like@neildee250 Jesus. I think you've done what I thought would have been impossible: you've put me on her side. I don't know if it's an accurate picture, but if your comment illustrates your personality, you're a fucking worthless, sexist piece of shit.
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LikeVeit It's possible for two people to be ignorant. You can disagree with both of them!
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Likewould
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LikeWhat the dumb woman say about people who have killed for thousands of years and video games didn't even exist, neither did movies. It's using video games as a scapegoat for someone's violent acts. I am married, have a solid relationship with my wife and play video games so dumbasses like her don't know shit what she talking about.
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LikeWhatever lady, I can multitask and micromanage an entire growing civilization that's at war.
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LikeThis person reminds me of that stupid jack thompson person who constantly says offensive things to us gamers.
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LikeSimonCorbettBsc Until he was disbarred!
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LikeBut what about men over 30, 40 or 50?
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Likesalmon_snake NO FUN ALLOWED.
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LikeSerial killers watch TV or listen to the radio, so I guess those things aren't normal either.
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LikeWho determines what is "normal"?
No matter how old I am, I am just as well as any other person on the planet allowed to have fun. If you think your social standrads speak against it then I can only feel sorry for you and your miserable lives.
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LikeAlright, as a Norwegian who's somewhat following the trial of AB, I'd have to say that this article got lost in translation and her quote taken out of context. She's not there to talk about video games, she's on of several people who's there to decide whether or not AB is insane. AB played a lot of video games, mainly WoW for extended periods of time, neglecting his social life, family and responsibilities at home because of it. This is obviously not normal or healthy for anyone regardless of age, so that's why video games have been brought up in this trial. To me it looks like the foreign gaming media is very caught up in this trial because they have the impression that the Norwegian justice system believes that video games is what made AB do what he did. That is far from the truth, (as far as I know) they are considering it a factor that might have made ABs mental situation worse, but not the cause of his actions. If you didn't already know this, AB did what he did because he believes he is the "savior" of the white race, and by killing politically engaged youth he hopes to bring attention to his cause.I hope that clears things up a bit.
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LikeI don't disagree with you, and I don't think the article gives the impression you're faulting. It simply criticizes one statement made after the doctor admittedly had no knowledge of what she was talking about; the rest of the article more or less comments on societal tropes and misunderstandings that seemingly get perpetuated for lack of common sense, while using her as exemplification. One point I do want to bring up, though, is that video games were seemingly a large part of the trial. For example, AB claimed to have used Call of Duty as a training tool for dozens of hours; this is likely the root of the rather extensive use of time to evaluate things like WoW play that would, in most scenarios, be neglected. Am I incorrect there? It certainly seems like the media, be it over here or there, is trying to use video games as a sort of scapegoat for his behavior and psyche evaluation; the trial's actions certainly aren't helping with that.
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LikeGamePlox Yes you're right, AB has said that he used Call of Duty as a training tool and this has been brought up and discussed during the trial, but it's never gotten the focus and attention in court that the media has given it. Like I said they have deemed it a factor, not a cause.
Of course, when AB says he used a video game for training purposes that is extremely unfortunate for those of us who enjoy gaming and know that using a video game (least of all Call of duty) to become better at handling weapons and learning how to kill is ludicrous so I understand why quotes like these are infuriating to those who don't follow the trial and don't know what else is happening in court.
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LikeSure. That's the bottom line, I suppose, for people like us.
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LikeNo matter the age in which people live nor where they live and not even the qualifications they own, dumbasses are crowding the surface of the planet for many centuries to come.
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LikeThat is not what an introvert actually is. I think the word you're looking for is asocial.
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Like@Someones1 I think it's a loose translation of the word, people do it all the time. Like, retard. he says it even though it's not what it means and most people get the connotation.
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Likelol.
I'm 28, have a girlfriend, own my own house, have a good job earning 6 figures and play computer games (with my girlfriend) on a daily basis.
Talk about sweeping generalisations - what a moron.
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LikeI completely agree, any one that u consider a man should not play games....he should kill himself!
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LikeAzaJabar
you muslims sure do love your suicide don't you
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LikeI agree 100% , anyone who still plays nintendo video games after the age of 18 is a retard.
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Like“why not take it further and call almost every gamer in the world an introvert for playing games in their spare time?”
I don't think you know what an introvert is... It's a personality trait that at least a third of the population possesses. It is not a psychological disorder or something to criticize one for. And it is absolutely not the same as possessing anti-social behavior traits, being a sociopath or anything of the sort. All it means is that spending long periods of time with a lot of people is draining and you need to "recharge" by having some alone time.
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Like1. Sorheim is a forensic psychiatrist, not a psychologist.2. She is not a court-appointed forensic psychiatrist and hasn't been since her report in December of last year (declaring Breivik legally insane) met with huge amounts of criticism. The new court-appointed forensic psychiatrists found Breivik to be legally sane.
3. She's just... just so full of it.
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LikeVeit Wow... That's really interesting, thanks for letting me know.
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LikeGuess we all have a defense for our psychotic behavior. Glad to know we can blame games and not upbringing here.
50 years ago comic books where the demon.
40 years ago Dungeons and Dragons were the devil spawn
30 years ago it was heavy metal music.
20 years ago...
10 years ago...
Pretty sure dubis the real evil here.
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LikeIf it had actually been psychotic behavior, then I think "psychosis" is a pretty good defense for, you know, acting psychotic.
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LikePresumably, she's been called upon by the prosecution to establish the character of the defendant and in the matter of video games, establish any sort of correlation between his activities and interests prior to the massacre and his subsequent actions. Unfortunately, it's a really poor way of correlating cause and effect as if playing CoD for hours on a daily basis resulted in shooting rampages, we'd be reading about so many of these cases on a daily basis, they would cease to be considered newsworthy.
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LikeNo, she was called upon to determine whether Breivik was legally sane, and could stand trial. She determined that he was not, but she has since been replaced, and Breivik has been found to be sane.
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LikeExactly. Nice comment!
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LikePlaying Video Games is a way to relax, and if adults, philosophers or monkeys can't agree with that, then they didn't grow up with video games.People in their 20's and other age groups shouldn't be ridiculed by monkeys that throw feces and instead we should throw it back and ignore what they throw at us in life.
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LikePlaying games after 20 isn't normal - said the old people who never had caliber of intense gameplay
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LikeGuess she should get those 282 employees of Funcom productions to find another way of bringing $20 million worth of revenue through Norway. Tool.
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Like"she had no fucking idea what she was talking about. I might as well tell you that leaving pop tarts in the toaster too long will make you retarded, or that wearing white after labor day will give you cancer." Dude, my cousin turned retarded from burnt poptarts.
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LikeWhat are you children? No one above the age of 18 should be allowed to have fun! we should have a law where anyone that does not have an 18 hour a day job and a familly with at LEAST 5 children should be executed on the spot for being immature!
You will have plenty of time to have fun after you die you lazy sack of shit!
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LikeNezgroul Boy, Romania sounds rough!
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